Valentine Collins and Dicey Gibson Collins (children)

Here I am going to list the children that I have been able to find that are possibly Valentine and Dicey's Children...However.....We are not sure when they got married exactly, so it is possible that Valentine had children with a first wife, and that Dicey had children by a first husband.......

1) Hiram Collins b. 1800-1810 d. before 1850?

2) Shepherd Collins b. 1802-1810 

  Here is what I have found on Shepherd....Formation of Breathitt County, Kentucky taken from Wikipedia...On February 6, 1839, a portion of Clay (along with portions of Estill and Perry Counties) was partitioned off to create Breathitt County. It was named for Governor John Breathitt.[4]

***1840 Breathitt County, Kentucky Census***

Shepherd Collins is listed as having the following in his household.
02001 males
20001 females

2 males b. 1830-1835
1 male b. 1810-1820 (This would be Shepherd)

2 females b. 1835-1840
1 female b. 1810-1820 (This would be Polly)

***1850 Breathitt County, Kentucky Census***

Shepherd Collins age 38 (b. abt 1812)
Polly (his wife) age 38 (b. abt 1812)
     children listed in his household are as follows:
John age 16 (b. about 1834)
Hiram age 14 (b. abt. 1836)
Sally age 11 (b. abt 1839)
Fereby age 10 (b. abt 1840)
Susannah age 7 (b. abt 1843)
Dicey age 5 (b. abt 1845)

***1860 Breathitt County, Kentucky Census***
Enumeration Date: July 24, 1860

Household # 717

Shep Collins, age 55, (b. abt 1805), male, farmer, Value of Real Estate $100, Value of Personal Estate, $150, Place of birth, Kentucky

Polly Collins, age 54, ( b. abt 1806), female, Place of Birth, Kentucky

Children of Shep and Polly Collins are listed as the following:

Sarah, age 20, (b. abt, 1840) female, Place of Birth, Kentucky
Phobee, age 18, (b. abt 1842) female, Place of Birth, Kentucky
Susana, age 16, (b. abt 1844) female, Place of Birth, Kentucky
Dicy, age 14, (b. abt 1846) female, Place of Birth, Kentucky
Adam, age 9, (b. abt 1851) male, Place of Birth, Kentucky

***1870 Breathitt County, Kentucky Census***

We find Shepherd Collins listed next door to his son John Collins.

Shepherd age 60, b. in Kentucky about 1810
Polly age 63 b. in Kentucky about 1807

Also listed in the household are the following

Susan age 21 (b. abt 1849)
Diancy age 19 (b. abt 1851)
Babary age 30 (possible daughter in law?) (b. abt. 1840)
Pollyann age 10 (b. abt 1860)
Oathra (male) age 7 (b. abt 1863)
Adam age 1 (b. abt 1869)

***1880 Breathitt County, Kentucky Census***

Shepheard Collins age 78 born about 1802
Polly (his wife) age 78 born about 1802
Susannah daughter age 25 born about 1855
Dicy daughter age 23 born about 1857
Sally Cole daughter age 35 born about 1845
Rhoda grand daughter age 10 born about 1870
Leander grand son age 8 born about 1872

3) Obedience Collins b. 1804 Virginia d. 1839 Magoffin County, Kentucky (according to some others)

Obedience married a man by the name of William Cole....According to their first child's birth Obedience would have been 8 years old if she was born in 1804.... which this is highly unlikely....I would presume that she would have to have been at least 13 years old....so more than likely she is one of the 2 females listed in William Cole's  census record below....born 1791-1800.

***1830 Census, Floyd County, Kentucky***

William Cole
20102 males
122102 females

2 males under 5 (born 1825-1830)
1 male 10-14 (born 1816- 1820)
2 males 20-29 (born 1801-1810)

1 female under 5 (born 1825-1830)
2 females 5-9 (born 1821-1825)
2 females 10-14 (1816-1820)
1 female 15-19 (born 1811-1815)
2 females 30-39 (b 1791-1800)

4) Joshua Collins b. abt 1805 in Hawkins County, Tennessee ? (not sure if it is Hawkins, but he was born in Tennessee. d. Feb. 7, 1854. 

 Joshua Collins--- Age 48 Parents: Valentine and Dicy Collins Born Tennessee and died in Johnson County, Kentucky on 7 Feb 1854.

****1830 Floyd County, Kentucky Census****

We find Joshua Collins listed as head of household.
Listing is as follows:  10001 males and 11001 Females...
All listed as white.

1 male under 5 (this would be William born 1829)
1 male 20 and under 30 (this would be Joshua born about 1805)
1 female under 5
1 female 5 and under 10 (this would be Louisa Dale b.1820-1825 , Elizabeth's child before she married Joshua)
1 female 20 and under 30 (this would be Elizabeth born about 1805)





In 1850 we find Joshua Collins in Johnson County, Kentucky with a wife and 7 children.

1850 Census Records, Johnson County, Kentucky
Census date September 11, 1850

House # 383

Joshua Collins      45     m     farmer       Value of real estate 1000   born in Tennessee  cannot read or write
Elizabeth               45      f                                                                      born in North  Carolina
William                   21     m    farmer                                                     born in Kentucky
Elijah                      19     m                                                                     born in Kentucky
Elisha                     17     m                                                                    born in Kentucky
Lydia                      13     f                                                                       born in Kentucky
Allen                       11     m                                                                     born in Kentucky
Cynthia                    9     f                                                                       born in Kentucky
Elizabeth                  7     f                                                                       born in Kentucky

5) David Collins b. 1807 in Virginia  d. ?

**1870 Barnett's Creek, Johnson County, Kentucky**

David Collins age 60 (b. abt 1810) born in Virginia race: Indian
Wife
Polly Collins age 70 (b. abt 1800) born in Virginia race: Indian

Malissa age 30 (b. abt 1840) born in Kentucky race: Indian
Juliann age 11 (b. abt. 1859) born in Kentucky race: Indian

6) Margaret "Peggy" Collins b. 1809 Kentucky?  because she states that she isn't sure where she was born....married Christopher Auxier August 23, 1827 in Lawrence County, Kentucy.

***1850 Census, Floyd County, Kentucky***
Enumeration Date: August 21, 1850

Margaret Auxier "listed as Aurier on Census Records".

Maragert Aurier (Auxier) age 40, (b. abt 1810), Female, Mulatto, Unknown Birthplace

Children listed in household are as follows:
All children listed as born in Kentucky

Allred Auxier, age 22, (b. abt. 1828), Male, Mulatto
Barbary Auxier, age 17, ( b. abt 1833), Female, Mulatto
Ezekial Auxier, age 13, (b. abt 1837), Male, Mulatto
French Auxier, age 9, (b. abt 1841), Male, Mulatto
Hiram Auxier, age 7, (b. abt 1843), Male, Mulatto
Clarah Auxier, age 6, (b. abt 1844) Female, Mulatto
Doctor Auxier, age 3, (b. abt 1847), Male, Mulatto
Teira Auxier, age 8/12 (b. January,1850), Female, Mulatto

7) Elijah Collins b. abt 1812 in Kentucky 

* 1850 Census*

Elijah Collins age 35 (b. 1815) male, black
Darcus Collins age 32 (b. 1818) female, black

children are as follows:

Elizabeth, age 13, (b. 1837) female, black
Sidney, age 8, (b. 1842) male, black
Phebe, age 5, (b. 1845) female, black
John, age 4, (b. 1846) male, black
Elijah, age 2, (b. 1848) male, black

*1860 Census*
Enumeration date is June 18, 1860
All listed as Mulatto

Elijah Collins age 47 (b. 1813)
Dorcas age 38 (b. 1822)

children are as follows:

Sidney age 16 female (b. 1844)
Phobe age 14 female (b. 1846)
John age 12 male (b. 1848)
Elijah age 10 male (b. 1850)
Franklin age 8 male (b. 1852)
William age 6 male (b. 1854)
George B. age 5 male (b. 1855)

8) Otary Collins b. 1816 in Kentucky

***1840 Census, Morgan County, Kentucky***
**Note**
Listed as "Free Colored"

Otry Collins
101000 males
100000 females

1 male age under 10 (b. 1830-1840
1 male age 24 to 36 (b. 1804 - 1816)
1 female age under 10 (b. 1830-1840)

***1850 Census, Johnson County, Kentucky***

Household # 319
No Race is listed

Otary Collins, age 34, male, Farmer, born in Kentucky (b.1816)
Francis, (wife), age 34, female, born unknown (b.1816)

Children listed in household as all born in Kentucky
Amanda, age 14, female (b. 1836)
Amos D., age 11, male (b. 1839)
Eliza J., age 6, female (b. 1844)
John, age 5, male (b. 1845)


***1860 Census, Johnson County, Kentucky***
Paintsville, Kentucky
Enumeration Date:  June 28, 1860

Otrey Collins, age 44, (b. abt 1816), white, born in Tennessee
Frances Collins (wife), age 44, (b. abt 1816),white, born in Virginia

Children listed in the household are as follows:

Elijah Collins, male, age 17, (b. abt 1843), white, born in Kentucky
Joshua Collins, male, age 15, (b. abt 1845), white, born in Kentucky
Doctor Auxier, male, age 13, (b. abt 1847), white, born in Kentucky

***Note Doctor Auxier is also listed in Margaret Auxier's census report 1850 Floyd County, Kentucky***
Margaret Auxier is Margaret Collins who married Christopher Auxier.  Doctor would be Otery's nephew.



**1870 Census, Barnett's Creek, Johnson County, Kentucky**

Household #12
Oatery Collins age 54 ( b. abt 1816) born in Tennessee race: Indian
Francis (wife) age 55 (b. abt 1815) born in Virginia race: Indian

Also listed in Oatery's household are:

Eliza J. Blanton age 27 (b. about  1843) born in Kentucky race: Indian
assuming these are Eliza's children:
John A. Blanton age 7 (b. abt 1863) born in Kentucky race: white
Amanda Blanton age 4 (b. abt 1866) born in Kentucky race: white
Ellen Blanton age 1 (b. abt. 1869) born in Kentucky race: white

*Note*
According to what I have found online...Eliza married John H. Blanton

Valentine Collins

 This is what I have personally found for Valentine Collins (Mulengeon) Okay so Wilkes County, North Carolina wasn't formed until 1778...So it is not possible for Valentine Collins to be born in Wilkes County!!!!! Or is it??????

{Per Wikipedia}

The county was formed on April 20, 1778 by an act of the North Carolina General Assembly of 1778 from parts of Surry County and Washington District (now Washington County, Tennessee). The first session of the county court was held in John Brown's house near what is today Brown's Ford. The act creating the county became effective on February 15, 1778, and the county celebrates its anniversary as February 15. Wilkes County was named for the English political radical John Wilkes, who lost his position as Lord Mayor of the City of London due to his support for the colonists during the American Revolution.

If he was born in the surrounding area of what in 1778 became Wilkes then he had to have been born in {Washington District or Surry County} either one will work but just not Wilkes!!!

Valentine Collins

**Listed in 1790 Census, Wilkes County, North Carolina**

Vol Collins 1-0-2
1 free white male 16 & up
0 free white females under 16
2 free white females


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Valentine is found on the Wilkes County Tax List, 1797 listed as owning 50 acres and 1 pole. Also listed in this record is a "Martin Gipson".  I think this is the same Martin Gipson/Gibson that is Dicey's Brother.  Record can be found here.....https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3J-X312-X?i=217&cat=1689329

Ashe County was created from Wilkes County in 1799.... From Wikipedia....The North Carolina legislature created Ashe County in late 1799 with an area of 977 square miles (2,530 km2).  


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So...Here are the adjacent counties to Wilkes...Lookie here...Ashe County, North Carolina where Valentine, Vardy Collins are both listed in the 1800 census...Adjacent counties are as follows:

Alexander County (south)
Alleghany County (north)
Ashe County (northwest)
Caldwell County (southwest)
Iredell County (southeast)
Surry County (northeast)
Watauga County (west)
Yadkin County (east)

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However it is very possible and extremely probable that Valentine Collins, Ambrose Collins, Vardy Collins and Thomas Collins never moved...the County lines were moved.  Ashe County, North Carolina was developed in 1799.  

***Wikipedia*** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashe_County,_North_Carolina

"In the 1780s, Ashe County was a part of the self-declared "State of Franklin", within the boundaries of its Washington County. The "State of Franklin" marked the beginnings of the State of Tennessee. The North Carolina legislature created Ashe County in late 1799 with an area of 977 square miles (2,530 km2). Many family surnames noted in the 1800 Ashe County Census, Blevins, Hart, Bare, Barker, Stamper, Miller, Burkett, Gambill, Baldwin, and Ballou as a sample, are still present today. "

"Ashe County is located in extreme northwestern North Carolina. The county is bordered by two states: Virginia on the north; and Tennessee to the west."

Valentine Collins, Vardy Collins, and Thomas Collins are all listed in a book "Ashe County A History" by Aurthur R. Fletcher and this book can be found on www.familysearch.org and downloaded for free.

North Carolina

• In 1800 Valentine Collins is living in Morgan Twp., Ashe County, North Carolina. Vardery, Thomas and Ambrose Collins also. All listed as FPC  (Free Persons of Color)

****1800 Census of Morgan, Ashe County, North Carolina****

Valentine Collins Household is listed as 00000-00000-6
Ambrose Collins Household is listed as 00000-00000-4
Vardy Collins Household is listed as 00000-00000-4
Thomas Collins Household is listed as 00000-00000-7

The last # is listed in the column that states "All other persons except Indians not taxed".
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By 1801 we find Valentine over the border in Virginia in the Stony Creek Baptist Church minutes.....

In 1801 and then again in 1803 he is listed in the Minute Books for the Stony Creek Baptist Church which is in what is now Scott County, Virginia.  But before that it was.....from Wikipedia..."Scott County was formed by an act of the General Assembly on November 24, 1814, from parts of Washington, Lee, and Russell Counties" .

Stony Creek Baptist Church Minute Books

*Church Meeting December 1801

Comfort Osborn received but not baptised.  Nancy Gibson received by letter.  Valentine
Collins received by experience and baptised.  David Cox received by experience and
baptised.  Ellender Nelson rec'd by experience and baptised.  James Stanfield received
by experience and baptised.  Betsy Burton, Mary Stanfield, Susannah Marshall, David Cocks,
Margaret Carter received and baptised.
 

*April the 23 day 1803

Church meeting held at Stony Creek.  Brother Culberson and Brother Thomas
Marshel is to site Brother Giles Lea to appear at the next church meeting.  
Henry Leath laid over till next meeting.  Brother Charles Gibson and wife obtain
a letter of dismission.  Brother Valentine Collins and wife to receive a letter
of dismission.  Dismissed in order.  Brother John Brickey, Moderator.


"Stony Creek Baptist Church
File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by:
Jenny Stilwell - jstill@midohio.net
Stony Creek Baptist Church
Minute Books
1801 - 1811
1811 - 1814
Fort Blackmore
Scott County Virginia
This copy of what is perhaps the first book of the Stony Creek Primitive Baptist Church, located on Stony creek, near Fort Blackmore, Scott County, Virginia, was in the possession of Mr. Scott Beatright of Colburn, Virginia, whose grandfather was once a Minister of this church.
The book is written on paper and bound between covers made of home spun cloth. The
handwriting is very good and the ink has lasted well.
Copied August, 1966, by Emory L. Hamilton, Wise, Virginia, with a copy filed in
the Archives of the Southwest Virginia Historical Society, at Clinch Valley College,
Wise, Virginia and a copy sent to the Virginia State Library, Richmond, Virginia."

http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/scott/church/stonycrk.txt?fbclid=IwAR1oX3xK-1NYLiTVfUew8_ghd14_-EARhddF7JdHn2-MVK4HsZgzWM7qqSQ

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A little History and Geography about Scott County, Virginia....
Scott County, Virginia taken from Wikipedia.....................

History
The early settlers found evidence of a former native village at the mouth of Stony Creek on the Clinch river.
Thomas McCulloch was the first white settler within the county, in 1769. Daniel Boone commanded several forts located here in 1774 during Dunmore's War, and several more were built in successive years. Even so, the Chickamauga Cherokee leader Bob Benge remained active in the area throughout this time, during the Cherokee–American wars, up until he was killed in 1794. By the times houses were built in the 1790s, the largely Scots-Irish population had increased by reason of its situation along the Wilderness Road. After Scott County was formed in 1814, the first court took place in 1815, and the first public schools in 1870.

Geography
Fall foliage at Natural Tunnel State Park in Scott County
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the county has a total area of 539 square miles (1,400 km2), of which 536 square miles (1,390 km2) is land and 3.1 square miles (8.0 km2) (0.6%) is water.
Adjacent counties
Wise County - north
Russell County - northeast
Washington County - east
Sullivan County, Tennessee - southeast
Hawkins County, Tennessee - south
Hancock County, Tennessee - southwest
Lee County - west
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But between 1803 and 1816 he has purchased several pieces of land in Tennessee. One of which is in Warren County, Tennessee next to Reuben Gibson...https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/3658/images/41659_290519-00319?pId=1582

Warren County was established 26 November 1807 from part of White County. Early records may be found under White County. County seat: McMinnville.  (Information taken from Family Search . Org. )

 
So here we are again with him crossing "State Lines"....Because Hawkins and Hancock County Tennessee is where we find him next....listed in 1816....


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Tennessee

• 24 April 1816--- by Tenn. Grant No, 3770 Absalom Looney received 150 acres; also 45 acres on north side of Clinch River where Valentine Collins formerly lived.
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By 1820 he is listed in the Floyd County, Kentucky Census...as follows:

Kentucky

• 1820 Floyd County, Kentucky Census

***Valentine is listed as having 6 FPC in household.  No ages are listed***

***1820 Census, Floyd County, Kentucky***

Valentine Collins 1820 Census Floyd County, Kentucky...I have found the ages for the people that were in his household....

9 free colored males under 14 (born 1806-1820)
  1 of these would be David Collins b. 1807
  1 of these would be Otary Collins b. 1816


3 free male colored age 14-26 (born 1794- 1806)
   1 of these is Joshua Collins b. 1805

1 free colored male age 45 and up (born before 1775)
   This would be Valentine b. abt 1768

8 free colored females under 14 (born 1806-1820)
  1 of these would be Margaret Collins b. 1809

1 free colored female age 14-26 (born 1794-1806)
   This would be Obediah or Obediance Collins b. 1804

1 free colored female age 26-45 (born 1775 - 1794)
 

1 free colored female age 45 and up (born before 1775)
  This could be Valentine's wife possibly Dicey b. about 1763

Or at least I am HOPING that this is correct.

There were ten Collins families on the 1820 census. Valentine, Bradley, and Meredith were the only Collins' listed as FPC. Adam Burchfield was living between Valentine and Martin Gibson. Martin Gibson is thought to be the same Martin Gibson born about 1776 in Orange Co, North Carolina. He was bound to James Carrington in 1784 along with sisters Dicey and Susannah. Dicey may be the wife of Valentine Collins. 

Here is the link to Dicey Gibson and Martin Gibson being bound to James Carrington.... https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS35-4SSC-J?cat=474816

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• 1830 Floyd County, Kentucky census Valentine Collins is living next door to William Cole who is reported to have married Obediah (Biddy) Collins, daughter of Valentine.

***1830 Census, Floyd County, Kentucky page #49 of microfilm .pdf***

1 male under age 5 (b. 1825-1830)
1 male age 5 to 10 (b. 1820-1825)
1 male age 10 to 15 (b. 1815-1820)
1 male age 20 to 30 (b. 1800-1810)
1 male age 60 to 70 (b. 1760-1770)
1 female under 5 (b. 1825-1830)
4 females age 5 to 10 (b. 1820-1825)
1 female age 15 to 20 (b. 1810-1815)
1 female age 50 to 60 (b. 1770-1780)
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• Collins, Valentine

Acres: 100 Book: F-2

Survey Date: 10- 1-1833

County: Morgan

WaterCourse: Newcomb Fk Page:

Township: Range:

***Reference***

THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1Part 1 page 512
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***1840 Census we find Valentine Collins in what is now Morgan County (Formerly Floyd), Kentucky (pg 326)***

Valentine Collins
Head
ages 60-70 (Born 1770-1780)
with him are these people listed
1 female age 50-60 (Born 1780-1790)
1 female age 40-50 ( Born 1790 - 1800)
2 female ages 15 -20 (Born 1820-1825)
1 female age 10-15 (Born 1825-1830)
1 male age 5-10 (Born 1830-1835)
2 males under 5 (Born 1835-1840)

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• 1844 2nd Sat Jul 13th; Met at meeting house. Bro. Samuel Smith, Mod. We give Bro. Valentine Collins and Sister Dicy Collins their letters of dismission.

***Reference***
STONE COAL CHURCH MINUTES. Part Four" (Contributed by Fred Vanderpool, Hippo, KY) in The Journal of the MAGOFFIN COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY, Vol. 23, Summer 2001, No. 2, page 57.

I personally do not think that Valentine and Dicey passed in Morgan County, Kentucky.  They received their letters of dismission...meaning...what exactly?